Hello, this is the Karen community anyone can join. Ba U Gyi's four principles are still held as the guiding Principles of the Revolution of the Karen National Union: 1. Surrender is out of the question 2. The recognition of the Karen State must be completed. 3. We shall retain our arms. 4 We shall decide our own political destiny. "To be called a refugee is the oppisite of a insult; it is a badge of strength, courage, and victory."